Two guys discuss the ideas, influences, epiphanies, and yes - the feelings - that make them better men.

Jaemin and Gabe discuss embracing the lows of life, as well as manscaping, banishing phones from bedrooms, an easier way to call your representatives, updates on Jaemin's online dating life, and more!

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Show Notes

(4:20) Deep Dive: Embracing the Lows

(6:20) Interview with Allie Lapidus on having to take a retail makeup job that she was resisting for years – and how it ended up being exactly what she needed.

(9:40) What makes lows such powerful growth catalysts?

(11:50) Jaemin’s low story: struggling with severe hypothyroidism for 6 months and becoming a monk on a mountaintop.

(15:25) How lows force you to carve out your own unique path – and help you become a teacher for others.

(17:32) Is there way to smooth out the crashes between highs and lows?

(22:53) Strategies on dealing with lows when they come up.

(26:53) How helpful a therapist can be (and how annoying it can be to find the right one).

(31:26) Quick Picks

Gabe’s #1: Buy an old school alarm clock (and keep your phone out of the bedroom).

(35:07) Jaemin’s #1: Easily call your representatives with the 5 Calls app.

(39:18) Gabe’s #2: Two pop culture recommendations: a podcast called Longform and a graphic novel called Saga.


(43:05) Jaemin’s #2: Getting a bodyhair trimmer (Philips Norelco Bodygroom).

(44:36) Gabe’s #3: Recomendo weekly newsletter.(46:33) Jaemin’s #3: Master of None S2 (Netflix).
– Master of None “Thanksgiving” episode recap
– Kumail Nanjiani’s The Big Sick
Hasan Minhaj: Homecoming King

Find Us Online

Gabe’s twitter

– Gabe’s latest post: “Simple Lifehack: Banishing the Phone From the Bedroom””
Jaemin’s twitter
– Jaemin’s latest post: “The Relationship Theory that Melted My Cold Heart”
Music for the podcast: “As Colorful As Ever” by Broke For Free