Two guys discuss the ideas, influences, epiphanies, and yes - the feelings - that make them better men.

As part of Jaemin's October Creativity Challenge, he finally moved forward with something he's always wanted to do: record a podcast!

So he sat down with Gabe Rose, a lifelong friend and frequent collaborator, and they decided to hit the record button and see what happened.

In their first podcast attempt, they cover topics such as:

• sleep drugs extracted from sleepy cats
• giving up a kidney
• undergoing a journey of the senses
• why religion is underrated
• what we’re missing about Trump supporters
• and much more!

And there's a bonus surprise if you wait til the end... Enjoy!